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Correct this is not up to her to decide
do what is best for your family
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You have gotten many good answers already. However, I understand the anguish you feel and for your Dad as well. The anguish the caregivers feel is sometimes overwhelming and so painful. I feel that as well, however, I finally realized that I needed some time for me as well, because my depression was getting too deep. I recommend you try to find honest, helpful aides, which is not easy, and go slowly towards the next steps whatever they may be. Wish you good luck and love.
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Move her to a home.She is too disruptive to all.
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BurntCaregiver Nov 2022
That's always an option too.
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Discuss this with her doctor. There are meds that can help with this problem. Good luck.
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"Dad is just leaving it up to her to decide if she wants a care giver".

Dad will need to adjust his thinking. Try this..
He needs to take the wheel on this one as Mom cannot drive safely.

"I don’t think it should be entirely up to her".

Correct. The help is for BOTH of them. To enable HIM to leave the house with peace of mind. To increase HER safety.

If Mom cannot reason that, has become selfish as they do, explain the help is for HIM.

I keep telling my LO this. Everytime the other cancels the support, attempts to cancel, fusses, tantrums etc.

It seems in my case, a long standing habit prevents the sensible one overruling - he really dislikes seeing her upset.

So. To be blunt... I say he has to toughen up.

The options are;

Option 1
Arrange the Aide.
Mom gets upset.
Dad feels a bit bad.. but Mom is left at home much SAFER.

Option 2.
No Aide.
A tantrum is avoided.
Dad feels slightly better, but then Mom is left home alone, distraught & panicked + left UNsafe. Dad feels bad about that.

Mom gets upset EITHER WAY.
Dad feels bad either way too (well until he understands..) But option 2 is SAFER.

Put those options to your Dad.

PS +1 speak to the Dr about meds for mood
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Would you let a toddler make the decision as to whether a babysitter comes in to stay with them? Of course not.

Crass as it sounds, a person with dementia is regressing to a place where they can't make the decisions, much like a young child. A child gets to choose between the red shirt or the blue one, but they don't get a say in whether someone comes to stay with them or where they live.

It's time for the adults to take charge. It's overwhelming for your dad, so perhaps you and your sister can take some of the pressure off by deciding this for both of them.
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Beatty Nov 2022
"It's time for the adults to take charge".

Agree. The adults who possess good reasoning have to reason for those lacking it.
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Everyone defers to mom, but she isn’t in her right mind. Time to make it clear that you’re in charge and realize you have to be. That will be best for everyone. She may never understand but she’s incapable of understanding a lot of things now. That’s how this disease is. Sorry you have this problem.
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It should not be up to your mom. Depending on how advanced her dementia is, things are going to need to happen whether she likes it or not. I tell my mom's caregivers that they need to be assertive with her. Don't ask her what she wants for breakfast - this is what I give her and she likes and just make it. Don't ask her if she wants to go in the sauna and then the shower - just say OK it's time for your sauna and walk her out there. If they asked her, 99% of the time she'd say no.

Good for your dad for getting out. But it sounds like leaving mom alone is NOT a good idea. So, start with a person that is there to clean the house. This could be their real job or just a term to not have her think that they're there to take care of her. She could do some cooking. Laundry, etc, etc. Once mom gets used to her, she can shift into more caregiving and less other things so dad can get a break and do some things that he likes to do.
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Depending on how far gone she is, is whether she should be making any decisions. A demented mind should not have any authority.

I would find a companion, introduce her to mom and let them develop a friendship. Then she can visit with mom, regularly and if possible, take her out. Mom doesn't need to know she is a paid companion.

Your dad matters too and you do not want him to become a statistic because he can't get away and take care of himself. 40% of caregivers die before the person they are taking care of.

I would tell my dad that this needs to happen and it needs to be at least once, if not twice weekly.

That's my opinion on the matter.

Edit: he should also have her seen by a geriatric psychiatrist to get her on some meds to calm her down. It's not good for her to be upset all the time.
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My aunt - who lives alone - also adamantly refused my arranging an aide to come in a few times a week for her. So, I changed the name, and instead of referring to the person as a "caregiver" or "aide", I told her that I was arranging a "health and wellness coordinator" or an "exercise trainer" (for balance and mobility) - and for that, she became very receptive - it was all in the way it was worded to her.

Perhaps you can try to reword the term "aide" into something more desirable - and maybe she'll become more receptive.

Wishing you all the best !
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Beatty Nov 2022
Oh sneaky..😁 I like!!
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Slschiller, you might want to have Mom checked for an Urinary Tract Infection. Such an infection can cause all types of behavioral problems on an older adult. Your Mom's primary doctor or urgent care can run a simple test.
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Bondgirlbelle Nov 2022
You really have me thinking now. My mom struggles to urinate and complains a lot about her flow or having accidents. We have had some really bad behavior. I just assumed she would be in pain like I am when I get one. However painkiller use daily could hide the pain of the infection. I will mention to my mom and the doctor.
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