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If Medicaid has waivers for AL in your state, then you get mom to apply for Medicaid and find an AL with an open bed that will take her “Medicaid Pending”. The AL may not be nearby. You may have to look a good distance away.
If no Medicaid AL in your state, your options are to me stark- - mom moves in with family and between her SS income to pay for outside home health and family caregiving for free, her care is covered. Or - mom moves into a board & care home. Lots cheaper than a NH and usually less than an AL. But her level of need will be so that it works for staffing of the board & care. Or - mom gets medically “at need” to be eligible for skilled nursing care in a NH. This could be possible depending on what her health care needs are. So what’s mom’s health like now and realistically how is she on her ADLs?
Also is mom not using her own income (like her SS) to pay towards her AL? If your paying all costs, why is she not paying some of this?
On the side of this page is a link to find care and housing. I found my mom an AL that she can afford using this site. Yes - it is about two hours away and in a rural area - but it is affordable, well run, and gets good ratings. Now to get her there.......
It is NOT your responsibility to pay for her. Why do you think it is? Have you told the AL that you will no longer be supplementing the cost? Have them help find her a place - i doubt they would park her suitcase on the curb....
What Kimber166 has experienced is the same for my area (New Orleans), AL rarely take Medicaid or totally self select from existing long term residents. Theres a “waiting list” but it means nothing for outsiders. Plus the existing state list for new beds is huge as LA has prioritized the more cost efficient PACE type community programs for the use of limited Medicaid waiver $$.
Not everybody or their family can afford PP AL at the rates of 5-8k a mo for the places in Uptown NOLA. Families - even with means - move mom out to the country 1-2 hrs drive away to the small town AL/NH combo type of facility at half the price. Care is just as good. And the staff know how to transition their health care chart to support “skilled nursing care needed” so they can become eligible for NH Medicaid.
Unfortunately, the US has chosen not to provide a reasonable medical system . Our "system" is geared to free market economics so it only works if you have lots of money. And I've known quite a few conservative types who like that just fine. If you don't have money you are a lazy, bad person and should be punished. Our ideas of family values and the free market system are not compatible in reality.
I am in MD. I am told the Medicaid Waiver AL list has years of a wait list. How can you be in your 90s and survive a wait list? I will research the advice given and perhaps consult an elder care attorney. At this point, I have not found one single facility where I will not have to pay myself. The stress of this situation has just about ruined me.
My Mom is using her total income and I am supplementing the rest which I cannot continue to afford. I do not understand why it is my responsibility to pay for her. I cannot get her NH approved. I am told over and over again she is not NH level. However, she is assessed LOC 2 or 3 and the ALs charge $400 to $800 and up extra on top of $3 to $4k for LOC. It is just ridiculous.
By proceeding, I agree that I understand the following disclosures:
I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
IV. No Obligation or Commitment.
You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
V. Complaints.
Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
VI. No Waiver of Your Rights.
APFM does not (and may not) require or even ask consumers seeking senior housing or care services in Washington State to sign waivers of liability for losses of personal property or injury or to sign waivers of any rights established under law.
I agree that:
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I authorize A Place For Mom ("APFM") to collect certain personal and contact detail information, as well as relevant health care information about me or from me about the senior family member or relative I am assisting ("Senior Living Care Information").
B.
APFM may provide information to me electronically. My electronic signature on agreements and documents has the same effect as if I signed them in ink.
C.
APFM may send all communications to me electronically via e-mail or by access to an APFM web site.
D.
If I want a paper copy, I can print a copy of the Disclosures or download the Disclosures for my records.
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This E-Sign Acknowledgement and Authorization applies to these Disclosures and all future Disclosures related to APFM's services, unless I revoke my authorization. You may revoke this authorization in writing at any time (except where we have already disclosed information before receiving your revocation.) This authorization will expire after one year.
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You consent to APFM's reaching out to you using a phone system than can auto-dial numbers (we miss rotary phones, too!), but this consent is not required to use our service.
If no Medicaid AL in your state, your options are to me stark-
- mom moves in with family and between her SS income to pay for outside home health and family caregiving for free, her care is covered.
Or
- mom moves into a board & care home. Lots cheaper than a NH and usually less than an AL. But her level of need will be so that it works for staffing of the board & care.
Or
- mom gets medically “at need” to be eligible for skilled nursing care in a NH. This could be possible depending on what her health care needs are.
So what’s mom’s health like now and realistically how is she on her ADLs?
Also is mom not using her own income (like her SS) to pay towards her AL?
If your paying all costs, why is she not paying some of this?
It is NOT your responsibility to pay for her. Why do you think it is? Have you told the AL that you will no longer be supplementing the cost? Have them help find her a place - i doubt they would park her suitcase on the curb....
Not everybody or their family can afford PP AL at the rates of 5-8k a mo for the places in Uptown NOLA. Families - even with means - move mom out to the country 1-2 hrs drive away to the small town AL/NH combo type of facility at half the price. Care is just as good. And the staff know how to transition their health care chart to support “skilled nursing care needed” so they can become eligible for NH Medicaid.
Cast a wider net for AL.